The United States Supreme Court has announced a ruling that is sparking outrage among Veterans groups across the nation.
The Supreme Court decided unanimously to deny compensation to Veterans with disabilities stemming from service if they didn’t apply “within one year of their discharge.” Even if the delay occurred because of their disability.
The case revolved around former Navy Sailor Adolfo Arellano, who served from 1977 to 1981. During his time in service, Arellano was nearly swept overboard when his ship collided with a freighter. During the incident the sailor watched several of his friends get killed and has suffered PTSD and other psychological issues as a result.
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He was left unable to work, and due to his illnesses he was not aware that he could have received disability compensation from the government.
It wasn’t until 2011 that his brother, who became his legal guardian and caregiver, found out that Arellano was eligible for benefits. At that time, his brother filed for compensation on the sailor’s behalf and requested retroactive benefits for the past 30 years.
The VA denied his request since it was not filed within one year of Arellano’s discharge from the military, and said they would only give him benefits going forward.
The sailor and his brother appealed the decision, and it ultimately landed at the Supreme Court.
Now the Supreme Court has handed down their opinion, which is as follows (via Military.com):
The U.S. Supreme Court unanimously rejected a veteran’s argument that his disability compensation should have been made retroactive to his date of discharge because his condition rendered him incapable of filing a claim within the required one-year window after leaving military service.
In a 9-0 opinion announced Monday, the justices rejected the arguments of Navy veteran Adolfo Arellano, saying that his case and others like it don’t meet requirements for an exception from the rule that allows veterans to have their compensation backdated to the date they left service if they file within a year of separation.
A number of Veterans groups have slammed the Supreme Court’s decision as a painful blow to military members who were injured while serving their country.
They trained us kill now the things we live with is what our families live with too, now they refuse to take care of us
As a Vietnam veteran like most I was not aware of the VA or that we were eligible for any benefits other than state unemployment. I only heard about filing for Agent Orange in the mid “80”s from a fellow worker, after applying. I received a form to fill out and returned.to some place. I don’t remember where later. I received an answer informing me that there was no compensation for Agent Orange for me, but that if I had children its possibly, they may receive some compensation. That was the extent of my involvement with the VA System until 2003. I enrolled in their Health Care System and has used it extensively. It has taken me 20+years to receive unemployability benefits only after receiving a 70% rating for PTSD in 2016. What most veterans don’t know, and I think is the most important piece of information is you must have the diagnosis from your primary care provider outside the VA its much better if you get the diagnosis from your primary care provider inside the VA. The first order of business is to gather your medical records from all sources and go over them looking @ your progress notes, get in the VA medical system, find.a (VSO) Veterns Service Officer VFW,DAV,AL,all these veterans service organizations have a VSO they work for the veteran with filing for benefits that you maybe entitle to. Remember you will not get a rating if there is no diagnosis in your medical records. Anytime you visit for your appointment always keep your alignment in the conversation. I served from 01/1970-03/1973 USAF.
The people that evaluate you for disabilities are not doctors. They don’t have a clue about medical conditions.. They are following some guidelines that somebody wrote years ago. The government is so out of touch with reality. The government cost the country billions because they wait years to change anything. By the time the government changes they are so far behind they may never catch up.
I agree. It’s quite sad how veterans have to fight to get taken care of after serving their country.
By law the VA only uses licensed M.D.’s or P.A.’s to evaluate conditions people have to warrant compensation.
THE Regional VA office manipulates the facts and manages the report to the court to get the outcome they desire. Denial is their major Thrust.
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I’m appalled at the number of NP they have treating our Veterans, it’s asanine!!! My spouse was diagnosed with PTSD on post at a military hospital, & then the doctor looked at me & said, “I have documented it in his chart, but you will have to be the one to push for it.” I had a lot of medical problems of my own, but still made sure my spouse was taken care of, has he received compensation for PTSD, NO!!! They denied it, had their butts been clearing bunkers in Iraq, fighting for their lives, & their comrades it may be a different answer, & or seeing stacks of the deceased people stacked along the only hardball road they had & had to use it often, clearing mines, & or marking them, no stress. My spouse could not handle the firecrackers on the 4th of July. He wakes up out of his sleep in a sweat, has respiratory problems I never dreamed he would have. He had only one medical problem that I knew of before Iraq, & their was an alert, the street, roads were solid ice & he fell landing on his back, but because he didn’t cry like a 2 year old & say he couldn’t participate nothing wrong with him, but their is. He gets on the wrong side of the interstate, his step son takes him places he wants to go!!!! His nose bleeds at will & I’m not talking a drop or two, it bleeds so badly that it soaks wash cloths or whatever he has!! I have a lot of Veterans in my family who have fought in wars to be discarded, not cared about upon their return, it’s sickening. My spouse will not complain to them he gave them 26 years of his life, & his records are sealed, so he apparently did something good for our country. The only thing he told me is he was invited into 16 countries & escorted out of 16 countries, sometimes living off the land. Yes he knew what he signed up for, but when you see an alcoholic drawing everything, & you can’t get taken care with compensation their is a problem, they have the pain meds they need, but no he can’t obtain them, because he could just be a pill head. He was tested for sleep apnemia & he awoke every 12 minutes, yes he has it, because I filed for him, we’re awaiting their decision, & yes it was a military hospital that performed the test in Kentucky. I don’t want to hear their excuses we’re both 72 this year, when are they going to help us? I believe that’s a fair question especially with the economy running wild, but billions can be sent to foreign countries that want to kill us & take over our country!!
By VA law , the VA can prevent va doctors from testifying in your behalf when fighting the va appeal
Typical gov website. My comment was not allowed bc I can prove the VA corruption. So they use the excuse that my email was not valid. But 8 checked B4 I said post n my comment is gone
Why are you talking about politics? This is no different than it’s always been for us, no matter who is president. I was in the Navy during Reagan/Bush presidency and we were treated like s**t then and nothing has changed.
Correct. I’ll give my 2 cents wort, trying to leave politics out. Just from a historical point, I was drafted in the summer of 1966 and by the beginning of 1967 I was on my way to Vietnam. Even though my MOS was supply, I found myself in an infantry unit which had been depleted by casualties. 11 bravo here I come. Shot during the TET offensive in Saigon. Surgeon told me to get used to the condition. I received an automatic 30% and it was only after the injury became more serious did I apply for an increase. Very quickly received 100% retro to the filing date. It was then I learned that the VA system was clogged up with 1000’s of Vets with all manner of PTSD injuries, even many who had never set foot in the field, I also leaned that there is a cottage industry that coaches folks how to file for an increase. War is a bitch of a thing, and I know first hand. Real injuries are easy to prove and the VA identifies them quickly. Phantom injuries take longer
I have an acquaintance who was in the navy somewhere off the coast of Vietnam, never set foot in country and wound up with 100% disability and when he got the award it came with a $55000 retroactive check he’s living the life. I am a Vietnam veteran.
My husband served in the Vietnam War and had prostate cancer in which his prostate was removed. And my personal health insurance paid for this. He also had a hard time proving he has ptsd. VA finally approved partial disability for the ptsd and did nothing for the loss of his prostate, which was from agent orange.
Both The VA and Supreme Court are pieces of Shits, and don’t care at all about the American Veterans!
I agree 100 percent. These cowards who fail to serve our country are somehow in charge of everything. How stupid is that? The real problem us that their cowards and have to be a part of a giant group of more cowards because they can only get things done in numbers. The people working for the government are undeserving of the freedom we provide. In fact they are just the biggest gang around. Veterans and enlisted need to stand up and bring about major changes. I got out of the Army in 1998 and six months after that the police set me up trying to catch my brother who was a fugitive at the time. Then they took away my DL in 2005 on accident. But do you think the cowards had the honesty to state that they made a mistake and reinstate my DL. Nope, they let the shit fall on me and in turn have failed to reinstate my DL to this very day. I have been falsely accused, charged, and imprisoned 17 times and can’t find one damn honest person in the whole group of all these undeserving loosers. Government jobs should only be run by veterans. We risk everything for freedom just to come back home to a bunch of coward ass crooks. No one in the Government right now is deserving of their position. They all need to be fired and a lot of them jailed for the shit they do to us veterans. I am at witts end with these cowards and im ready to take whatever action is needed to rid of the scum..
Many things to consider: I truley believe the decision is WRONG. Now what to do. Getting our voices together and having some effect on people voluntering to serve. Contacting our senators and reps especially when they are running. Getting good spokes persons on the media. Even if we can’t – except for Newsmax and Fox: Liberal media may be a stone wall, especially if it is negative against the Governmant. Not demostrating at the Whitehouse. Publically questioning those running for office.
Also asking for help from the American Legion, VFW etc. American Legion help me a lot (knowledge is power sometimes) Be sure to set that date of initial app. even if is now.. Refrain from showing our ignorance as in a few of the comments above.
But the most important choice you can ever make! Is to give your life and trust to Jesus. He will bring Joy in hardship and He can and will change everything. Ask him into your life and the Almighty and Loving God will take over your care.. His love for you is the only love you can depend on. You don’t need to qualify. Just ask. Pray. He’s waiting for you to call.
AMEN!!!
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How sad that all of you think the Democrats or the Republicans care about you. You were and still are just a number, like you are in any other industry or job. What sad is the fact that you want to go to war with your fellow veteran or other Americans . Grow up!!!! Our current President is a joke and has destroyed this country in the short time he has served, anybody that has a pulse would admit to this, whether their Democrat or Republican. We are all American. I know a few veterans while I served that had a choice to go to prison or serve in the military. These people I am talking about hate for anybody to talk about their time in the service, why?? Because of their own doings!!!! I know another of people who served probably didn’t always appreciate their time in the service, I my self couldn’t wait to get out after the way I was treated.
But I look back on the time I served and realize, I made some good friends, got to travel almost everywhere in the Northern hemisphere. I was very fortunate. All veterans are an elite group of people. You all did something, that most people will never experience. I was dramatically injured in 1982, I fought the VA for years, I wrote all my congress people and representatives to no avail. In desperation I wrote the White House. President Trump answered me, he said this doesn’t seem right. A few months later I got a letter from the VA saying we heard you wrote the White House. within a few months I was at a 100% disability. The VA should have paid me the thirty- seven years of back pay. They never have paid me the back pay. They rather see you die before paying a large claim. Most of these people if not all, never served in the military. All industry including our government owes their existence to all of the elite group of people like you who served our country. So please stop beating up each other over political beliefs. Remember we are all Americans.
Well you need to listen to the end of your comment yourself before you give advice to anyone. Despite your comment about this president he just approved a lot of diseases for agents orange and the gulf War veterans and made them presumptive that wasn’t available for veterans. So just stop it the hatred.
I need you to tell me and many other veterans who were on ships, (nucleur and conventional) and exposed to anything they wanted us to be exposed to can’t get ANYONE to tell us where prostate cancer comes from so we can be compensated for it. It is the only cancer that I know of that doesn’t qualify for a damn thing. Why? Becaus there are to many of us Soldiers, Sailors, Airman and Marines who have suffered from it. The president can’t do a damn thing about any of our conditions, whether he’s Republican or Democrat. It’s those assholes sitting in Congress who won’t do a damn thing. Come Juse 1st without a new budget, ask them will they still be getting payed. We as veterans have enough stressors as it is. Now, possibly in a week, we have to make calls to hold off our creditors. We work hard our whole damn life to have a house a car, “The American Dream”. For what? so a couple of hundred maggots can just take it away. Watch a pay attention to who you vote for. Shether its Republican or Democrat, make sure they are for what you stand for and not just blowing smoke.
MJA, stop the bullshit about Trump helped you. No damn President responds to a damn claim. You say don’t put politics in the convo, you just did and I guess you think the rest of us veteran’s are stupid. You so wrong, I served and work beside four star general. We talk and the president don’t have a damn thing to do with claims. Your Congress and Senators make laws and they can help if they choose. Let’s not lie to one another. Let’s help each other.
No, the republicans are taking care of that as always with the wars this country has had. None of us can do anything because of the corruption in our government in all levels. So just shut the fuck up with your dumb remarks and keep kissing republican corrupt ass! I also served honorably and for what??
another DemocRAT with an opinion!
Yup
How do we appeal
The C-N-C.
Where to go and appeal to fine where can we go..Their some thing have to be done . where is the justice system and VA the American legion and Vet of feigned war
I served in the Navy during the Vietnam era, 1961-1971. I was never informed that I could apply for disability until 2018 when one of the staff at the VA hospital in Fresno, California told me. I have tinnitus and PTSD. I applied for disability in 2018 and was rated 10% disabled. It was not retroactive. The US Navy was responsible for telling me what benefits I was available for and they did not. Also, I believe that I am at least 40% disabled.
What is the PTSD from?
Watching old news reports/video clips and movies about the war.
Hii, the Supreme Court has become adversarial due to Trump appointees. The Republicans have shown their ugly faces ince sgain.
The truth of the matter is that mi ey is their god. Elitests who are creati g unconstitutionsl laws that benefit big money. Not the oppressed or victimized..
I too was denied retro pay,
Suxh injustices ate a part of the ungodly.
Jesus is set to wipe the wicked ofd the earth. He will judge this planet and its leaders…
It was a 9-0 opinion, thus your point that it was a republicans judges appointed by Trump doing is not valid!
You are ovestating the Republican Blame –it is 6 to 3 –3 dems voted to deny. In addition even though John Roberts is a Rep he votes neutral – about equal with the dems and the repubs. Also I totally agree the ruling is completely WRONG, the complete truth is that the VA does pay retroactive to the date of application even if it takes years to approve..
Yes you are right. The va pays backpay from the date that you file.
True! Stop looking g at Trump.and the republican party to blame. I think it’s obvious the left Ssone there share of damages to this country and our Veterans and military!!!
The last 3 REFUCKS picks by DUMP #45 all lied under oath! And I can’t wait until Uncle Fat Wallet Thomas resigns, along with Jan. 6, leader Ginny!
Are you saying you did not attend a transition briefing telling everyone in that briefing that they can and should apply for VA benefits even if they don’t believe they have a VA compensated disability? When I got out of the AF it was a mandatory 3 day long (in civilian clothes) briefing telling all of the benefits available. The VA or DAV came in and told us “if you don’t get anything out of this briefing, at least fill out the VA form and submit it now” and let us determine if you have any disability. I did as was told and I got an immediate 20% the day I got out.
When your out at sea you don’t get no type of transition briefing. Your sometimes stranded at sea past your ets waiting on a hop from the ship. Unfortunately a lot of mlitary personel aren’t given the information that they needed back in the 70s and 80s. It has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans. When it comes to educational, housing, medical, and other benefits you have to get out and get in the know. I actually created a veterans ministry at my church to help veterans taht don’t know. We as veterans have to share the information that we have. I was fortunate enough to work for the VA when I got out, so now I’m sharing that information with any veteran that wants to know.
The same thing happened to me in the ’90s. Went through Navy Separation and was not given any information regarding benefits or that I should document and submit any injuries. I also wasn’t told that I could file for unemployment… I didn’t know until 2010 that I could file for anything….go figure. Hoping everyone gets what they deserve.
M.A
That’s great news to hear. It took 30 years for me to get 10%.And now I am stuck at 40% And I’m a Desert Storm Veteran, how can you help me and I also work for the VA as a Transportation Driver
I agree with Fred and I too retired from the AF which shouldn’t make any difference. I know through personal association that the VA is making a major effort to publicize benefits to veterans, especially those in rural areas, at this very moment (Spring 2023). Instead of complaining with a lot of inappropriate language in a forum such as this put your effort into making the VA honor their commitments. There are many veterans’ advocacy groups, including state agencies, that will help you plead your case.
Keep upgrading every year , and along with your upgrade file a secondary disability. Sit back and wait.
You are an idiot. The article says “The Supreme Court”. The Supreme Court is not Biden’s Administration. If I’m not mistaken, Trump’s Administration placed a couple people on The Supreme Court. My goodness. Why does it always have to be Reps and Dems. Oh, and the only way Trump will be president again is in his dreams.
your as slow as biden
Maybe he would be faster if he chased whores like trump
it was a 9-0 decision, 6 from a Rep.( 3 of those that did not come to the defense of the guy your still standing up for and will be in jail soon, and 3 from a Dem, so tell me please how does this have anything to do with Biden,
Oh wait FOX news said it
I agree. I don’t understand why he should even be allowed to run.
Because look at the stats, that says it all. All this is a witch hunt. Because a businessman came in and pissed in their playground
I agree and started to turn this Great Country around..
lmao
Biden’s regime are satanic and treasonous.President Trump will get us back on track.Biden’s destroyed all Of Trumps executive orders.But if we’re having to fight for our rights and VA compensation if there trying to take that away well then it will be the time to round up a lot of Veterans and let our voices be heard.I’m a 100% Vietnam vet 70/71 2/327th inf 101st Ann and I’m not going to allow them to take away what all Veterans have fought and died for and for those that need help they should give all veterans some kind of monetary awards etc. MJB
And you wonder why you are messed up…You supported Trump.
You’re an idiot Charles. Get your head out of your ass
Both of you are idiots, any president is not responsible for what our congress and senator fail to do, if they work together and look out for our soldiers and more for those that serve and now they are sick and nothing is done to take care of them just more hard time in the VA Hospital.
Hector, you are so right. The president has NOTHING to do with what the Supreme Cour rules. —NOTHING. It is quite obvious many of you flunked Political Science in high school. You have no idea at all how the government works. And sadly, ALL of us were supposed to go to that lecture before we got out. In fact, we ALL signed a statement that said we did. If you decided to go to the club instead, that ain’t anyone’s fault but yours. The president does NOT run the supreme court. The president can only pick a replacement for one of them if they retire or die. —That is ALL the president can do. Read the constitution. And pay attention while you do. You will see that Trump broke the law more than once. He is the only president impeached twice, and still, those who have no idea how the government works are in love with that liar. Overt 1000 people have been tried and convicted for Jan-6. The person who told them to do it is just as guilty. You really think he cares about you? He called us all fools more than once.
You have no clue what you’re saying, Qanon Zombie. When you finally wake up, you’re gonna be so pissed at yourself. But the rest if us will be laughing at you.
I agree with you 100%. Biden has us 300 TRILLION dollars in Debt now. So who does he come after the VETS. The guys that died and fought for what we have now.
Shell shock in all of it’s forms. It can be dreams, nightmares, triggered by vision or hearing.
This heap is getting smellier and likewise ugly. These Trump voters have no idea the harm they are doing. They voted for Trump and had six people killed today at a Presbyterian school. Trump followers are keeping the NRA in charge of our children’s safety.
You really are sick! What makes you think trump supporters killed those people?? I think you and slow joe need both your heads examined! Neither party had any body killed at any school you freaking moron! Get a grip! I’m a trump supporter cause I despise idiots like Biden and Harris! I may not agree with some of trumps ways but he got stuff done! Jealous much!!!!! TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT 2024!!!!
This is the epiphany of the VA and the US government.you are just a number to them.I am 100 percent P&T disabled from vietnam.It’’s the same old shit,the VA’s way of handling things is to wait Us out,because we will eventually die off and fade away.My heart goes out to my fellow brothers who gave the ultimate sacrifice with their lives.But do you know how many have died from agent orange and associated medical issues that never got treated or it was to late to be treated,try this on 600,000 plus,but you won’t ever hear about that!!!!! I am truly grateful for what I get paid from the VA,but their is not enough money in the world to take away the mental and physical pain I endure every day.My heart goes out the my fellow veterans that have never been due the compensation they deserved.It’s all a fucking numbers game the VA plays.but yet we will give a corrupt country billions of dollars that doesn’t give a shit about us Americans.Sad state of affairs.old Abe Lincoln must be turning over in his grave.So much for taking care of us fortunate veterans that made it home alive but scarred for life.May god give us peace and serenity till we pass away!!!! God rest your weary sole.
That was very well said
Amen!
I think I your statements covered the great truth about our military personal importance but yet the survivors struggle to receive any true support from our Va government program s or they are uneducated of benefit s they could be entitled to have however when our government gives millions of dollars to other countries and advoids our military fighter that served and needs help and support and the Va turns their back on them is unfair Bullshit
We the people must volt in the proper personal to congress representative s to keep Americans respected especially when Joe Biden lost his mind when he signed a proposal to activate Biden Bucks and having us all controled under 24 hr servaence loosing our rights to have paper money and freedom of speech and canceling union jobs with oil companies.
Go to the internet look up Jim Richards order 14067 that Biden signed into order with out any American s votes or with out any congressional approval on March 9-2022 he is taking Right s away from all of us as if we become very restricted
As if we American s are going to be treated like a communist contractor. Joe Biden should comitt his self to a Mental Hospital and a Jail cell for all the kick back money he received for oil purchases from other countries instead of using our American resources .I served in
US Navy on a Aircraft Carrier durning
Veit-NAM 6 years was Hoarable Dischared
Dave Robert’sMarch 27-23
This is shameful. There are so many military personnel who have served their country honorably, been decorated for valor and are suffering from conflict induced health issues and get mistreated by all employees (from top to bottom) while seeking to have their particular ailments treated. In my case the lack of care by Hospital staff was unbelievable. For example, at the height of the “pandemic” I was asked to set an appointment time for a physical exam. Dutifully reported to a closed, locked and unattended front entrance. I have ten such “clearance tags” from visits to local veteran’s hospital services where I entered, went to indicated clinic, and was told the clinic was closed, as were all offices and services…but down the hall was a full dress party with music ongoing, mirth and laughter a-plenty. VA Hospital is the biggest dump and shameful example of just how little military and civilian top brass dismisses honorable service personnel (some have Medals of Honor). And the top brass of the VA Hospitals across these fruited plains…just laugh, and joke about it. If I was going to survive, had to purchase an HMO PLAN to get care, specialists and ongoing medications…otherwise my fate would have been sealed in 2021. Then getting into local veterans cemetary…fuggetaboutit.. Military healthcare is a laughing matter…shame, shame upon these highly paid, corrupt “military players.” God Bless.
I don’t understand what is going on. There is some clause in the regulations that if you can prove that you had extenuating reasons why could file the VA is supposed to look at your case. They are supposed to look at each case on it’s on merit. I was brutally raped by my commanding officer in Fort Irwin California for eight months. This was in 1985 when nobody spoke of sexual abuse or rape especially men. I was discharged with a general discharge charge under honorable conditions due to drug abuse. I was ashamed, embarrassed and blaming myself for what happened. When I got out I was a heroin addict and a alcoholic. I did these things to forget what happened I didn’t want to deal with the trauma of what happened. It took me 30 years to ask for help. After many rehabs numerous suicide attempts, jail, psychiatric hospitals, and destroying my relationship with my son and wife I decided to get true help. On my last overdose my wife had to narcon me to save my life. I finally got clean and filed for benefits with the VA they gave me ten percent. After two years of fighting they gave me 100% for PTSD, major depression with suicidal ideation due to MST. On from when I filed 30 years ago I wasn’t able to file due to my addiction because of MST. They won’t even look at my case. The Supreme Court needs to take another look at the pain they are causing.
My name is Laura Adams and 100% Service Connected Disabled Veteran Dod and I have been trying and talking to counselors for years and they would just laugh in my face because I was raided by DLD when it was the DOD or the VA that could rate during the time that I was released… and just like Adolf I had extenuating circumstances I was severely agoraphobic they didn’t tell me what was wrong with me they put me on a walk a plane with a white dress on after they made me have a abortion because I suffered sexual trauma back then they call it sexual trauma , The word sexual trauma didn’t even come out of their mouth. Well for 20 years I was on the street smoking crack drinking everything I could on just whatever somebody handed me whatever it was I take it to I didn’t know my ass from a hole in the ground excuse my cursing but that’s just how it is. Well I finally got up the nerve to say that I was going to go back because I read somewhere in one of the papers that the VA hands out that I actually could go and file and get it. I was reading 100% total and permanent by the DOD in 1981 I did not get my compensation Until 2004.
Now I’m reading this about the supreme court how dare they. Do you know that only 1% of the population serves their country. When we all went in and took our test and get our pledge we were all giving our lives for our country because none of us knew if we would make it back if we would die for you to get hurt extremely bad or whatever. it seems like they wanna take everything away from us that they can and not keep their promises. But when we took our pledge we did as we promised/pledged…… So how can the supreme court come in and just say forget it you can’t have it. I am so sorry to rattle and go on and on about this that is just not right. And it seems the only way that veterans ever find out what most of their benefits are is 31 another it’s like they don’t want Veterans to have anything they the government I’m sorry Military doesn’t seem to want to keep their promise. I can go on about how bad did Vietnam veterans were treated and now they wanna make it up by putting some of the Vietnam veterans in a plane and taking them back to Vietnam to see the memorial. Well that’s all fine and dandy what about when they came home yeah what about when they came home the United States treated the Vietnam veterans flight crap. I’m sorry I just wanted to put my two cents worth in or one cent worth.
Hopefully this will be reversed because it’s just not fair it is absolutely not fair.
Laura Adams DAV/USN
I sure hope it is Laura I thought the VA for almost 50 years then it took a whole office full of lawyers to get 70% and then unemployability. Hell when I got out of the military I didn’t even know anything about the VA for about 5 or 6 years and I only found out by accident when I went to the hospital because I was in severe pain and one of the doctors there told me to go file for the VA and even gave me the address. I was one of those people that was given no rating and put in a special category where they did not rate anything else I’ve got a total of about 27 issues and out of all those issues they only rated me for PTSD and then said I couldn’t work. I’ve been following this case as much as I could, and right now I’m looking for any way I can to get something started to Get It reversed. But I think it’s going to take all of us veterans together speaking as one voice I know that will be a Monumental task because you have some officers out there that’s getting everything they want and they still look down on the rest of us you can tell that by just looking at some of the comments on here. I’ve seen some comments from officers that tell us we’re just a bunch of cry babies usually that’s somebody that said in an office didn’t even go out in the field but yet when they got out they knew how to do the system and they got their 100%. Yes I’m pissed over this because I’ve seen guys out there that’s even in worse shape than I am and they get nothing. It’s time for all of us veterans to stick together and speak as one voice
I agree on veterans getting together and working/demanding better care..
too many of us are hurting for too lack of care.
I am a Vietnam Vet (Army) and when I was going through processing out (Jan 1969) and at one of the meetings a VA Representative passed out a form to complete if we has any injuries while we were in the service. I had tripped a booby trap and had spent 2 1/2 months in several hospitals and I filled out the form and handed it back to the rep. He stated that when we got home we would be called by the VA for the C&P exam within two to three months after discharge. I was called and had my exam and was rated @30%. My current rating is 90% most of it due to Agent Orange and I have been in the VA system since 1969. My out processing was at Ft. Benning GA.
My husband is a disabled Vietnam Veteran who suffers from PTSD as well as other conditions due to his time in service. All I can say is to SCOTUS , SHAME, SHAME, SHAME,
I am and will always be a proud female MSgt in the USAF; however, I was sexually assaulted in May 1992 by my boss who was the deputy commander of the base commander. I unfortunately reported it to my Chief in Command and shit rolled down fast. I was PSCd so quickly out of that base, as a single parent along with my 5 year old son it was insane. My son’s life and mine were forever turn upside down. I got 10 percent when I retired in 2001 for PTSD. There was no way in hell I could have filed a claim for an increase for compensation because VA didn’t even recognize MST was a cause of PTSD til 2012. I am now at 70 percent but it took me 18 years to get that. I really wished he would have succeeded, but our Government, VA, and the Supreme Court sadly see us veterans are third class citizens. God bless all veterans!!
God bless you
If the Supreme court can take away our Benefits like that then Someone is not reading our contribution the right way. In there President Abrahan Lincoln Said at his Gettysburg address. we will take care of our Veteran’s Health, Monetary and Education, Let them read it before they make a fool of themselves
The fact that it was unanimous says it all..
These 9 people need to be replaced and I don’t mean by voting!! They are all what I call “educated idiots” because they may be book smart but have no real world experiences, especially regarding ANYTHING TO DO WITH MILITARY SERVICE!! They are all heartless bastards, as this latest ruling proves. May they all have long, slow, lingering deaths just like the millions of vets that are dealing with their multiple health issues on a daily basis.
You know that’s our problem, we the people put these people in power. so in order to change that all government services should have a four-year term just as the president has, out with the old in with the new
Assholes every fu;;ing one of them… sitting back with their lifetime gig
Ridiculous that a couple of suits who went through law school and milked the political spotlight their entire lives got to make this decision. They wouldn’t last a minute in the service so why is it justice to have them make the decisions. A vet is a vet no matter when they served or when they filed for disability, no one has the right to deny a veteran benefits, especially someone who never served. I’m a 100% service connected vet who had to fight for every percentage point! Why do we have to fight to be taken care of when we fought for the freedoms every American has the right to.
I agree with the decesion and I’m a disabled vet. I had (2) service connected injuries that didn’t become until later in life! I worked and and was functional for many years before I had to file for disability. I can see where this would overwhelm the VA if they had to determine when a condition became disabling. As it stands now and always has been- benefits are retroactive from the time you file the claim. This is common sense. Sounds like greedy attorneys were involved with this.
Yes this is bull shit these mf my 1st year in I was in Germany sleeping and 2 frickin guys came in and repeatedly rape me I kept this in for over 40 years last year was the first time I talked about it to a therapist at the VA and over that time I try to commit suicide over 20 times and last year is when I knew I could file and I got 2 months back pay so now I got a lawyer involved Im so disgusted right now and I finally got accepted to go to impatient to deal with this my whe life has been ruined your right they don’t give a damn about us let’s figure out what we all veterans can do to get this changed we all need to meet at the white (joke) house and give them a protest they will never forget
Yes this is bull shit these mf my 1st year in I was in Germany sleeping and 2 frickin guys came in and repeatedly rape me I kept this in for over 40 years last year was the first time I talked about it to a therapist at the VA and over that time I try to commit suicide over 20 times and last year is when I knew I could file and I got 2 months back pay so now I got a lawyer involved Im so disgusted right now and I finally got accepted to go to impatient to deal with this my whe life has been ruined your right they don’t give a damn about us let’s figure out what we all veterans can do to get this changed we all need to meet at the white (joke) house and give them a protest they will never forget
As usual,
Coming from those that have NEVER served/fought to defend this country.
I serrved in Vietnam. From that service I have several disabilities that has left me with 80% service connected but paid at 100% because I am unemployable and will be for the rest of my life.
My disabilities come from my service in Vietnam. So disability compensation should have started when I came back to the states from Vietnam not when my filing was for compensation was approved. I was back paid three years but that doesn’t seem appropriate. I have suffered for years and will suffer until I leave this world. No financial amount of compensation will take the place of physical disabilities for which I suffer.
None of them served and don’t give a crap about us veterans.
Just one of another blow to we Veterans who served.
They’re more than happy to take away services and support from us to give to their war machine we fought hard to keep from happening. It’s like we don’t matter anymore.
Just sad that this great country has gone this way.
The rul8ng said file within one year of getting out. ONE YEAR. THEY SHOULD KNOE AIN’T NI WAY IN HELL THEY GOING TO BACK PAY 20 YEARS. ARE YOU KIDDing me.
Franklin,
Like you, I’m deeply disappointed by the Supreme Court decision to deny retroactive benefits, especially since it may take longer than a year for manifestations to appear (as in my case.) I am thankful that benefits were retroactive to the date of my application.
What concerns me more is your use of this forum for your personal rant. Why not leave your political opinions out of it and stick to the subject at hand? That way you will appear more believable and less unhinged. Just a thought from an old, disabled Vietnam ground pounder.
My benefits were only retroactive 1 year. from the time I filed. Same for SS. I thought that one year from filing time has been in place for many years.
VA refused to pay according to judicial law
38cfr
They do not care
Trust he as well
I apoealed to the
BVA
After 2 plus yrs
Got a hearing for 22 mjn
Judge refused to allow me to read my evidence
4 months later also denied back money
For ( change of affective Date ))
VA states only have to pay from time claim is filed ,,
They said they’ are sorry
Right for treating me for terminal illness for 23.5 yrs that I never had
Didn’t find out until
2017 spring
Bottom line veterans of any branch
Any kind
We are only a number
They say screw us
If we don’t have evidence
You cannot file a claim period
But rated ok n paid
But no back money
They say go to the
Curcuit Court of Apoeals
You have 120 days from
Decision !!
They state decision is final ,,
That’s it
I feel for all veterans ,,
I would have to agree with the decision. Reason, any Vet should immediately file claims. If it is denied, immediately file an appeal. Then if 2 yrs , 20 yrs later, it will have an retro effectiveness. Waiting decades is totally inappropriate. NEVER listen to advise verbally, always get it in writing. I did so for my husband… later paid appropriately, and when I did so for my father, I had to file an appeal, it took 7 yrs for action, but it was paid retro. ALWAYS do every correspondence, application, and appeal and save your documents to your claims. VETS have rights, but not gimmies.
I did not know at the time of my discharge that I was having a problem. Finally, the problem got so bad I wound up in the hospital. When I told my army buddy about this he said “geez Eli, don’t you remember me bringing you to the emergency room three times between 1987-1990? I found you half in and half out of your car while it was running and you were unconscious”. That was the problem, this particular medical disability causes memory loss and I had no memory as a problem ever occurring. It took about 20 years before another major attack happened and I wound back up in the hospital. I couldn’t even fill out personal disability insurance forms because I could not remember to do them. I could not remember the information that they wanted. Memory loss is one of my issues. It did begin in the army but it took 20 years for me to have a fourth major attack, and even then I had to be told about the first three that has happened . I should have been medically retired after the first one. So no, I disagree with the decision. Also, after my very first “examination “by some old doctor who only listened to my heart (didn’t even examine my knees) and didn’t discuss any of my medical declared I had a 10% noncompensable disability of my knees. I was not told that I could appeal this. I was not told I could use the VA even though I was only 10% noncompensable. Nobody told me anything. The problem with my knees was caused by being on the army powerlifting team. How is that how is that not work related how? How is that not compensable? By the way, I know exactly what kind of exam was performed because I myself am physician and the guy administering the exam was a quack. I also am now up to 40% disability for the brain related stuff that has been going on since 1987.
I was in the Army in 1981. During that time I had 3 surgeries in and out of WPAFB Ohio.
I have filed for benefits to this day I have not received anything. The VA here is so overwhelmed that they have no way of knowing who is who.. I hired a lawyer to help with this. hopefully this will be the last time.
Disappointed in the VA.Disappointed in the Supreme Court.
This a serious blow to many veterans who proudly served their country and in some cases paid the ultimate price. Most veterans were unaware or unable to apply for disability benefits within the one year time period, So does this decision mean that other veterans receiving disability benefits will have them taken away because of this ruling? How sad.
Stand up against the system and DONT recommend anyone joining the military. Let politicians fight their wars. This is a clear message that the United States of America does not care about veterans that served so why should anyone sign up? If Biden doesn’t fix this, vote for the other man or woman. I voted Biden and now I see I made a mistake.
Supreme court has nothing to do with the president. Instead you have republican congress taking your health care and benefits away.
Man you must have your head in the sand – The Republican Congress has ONLY Been in Control of the House for 2 Weeks and nothing has been passed and sign into law by “Blood On His Hands Biden” that has impacted the time frame for filling a claim. The VA has set the rules for filling a claim.
There seems to be a lot of that kind of “Biden regret” going around lately…
What a load of CRAP!
This is just another blow to Veterans who served their country were injured.
I wanted to comment, but I have no words that I can use in this forum, that could possibly come close to being adequate in how I feel.
Like many before and after me, I gave the BEST YEARS OF MY LIFE, volunteering to give blood, sweat, and a marriage, and possibly my life, for a country that I am now watching being sold off to CHINA, by people who took the same oath I took.
I SWORE to defend this country and our CONSTITUTION, against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Democrats and progressives are steering us into a CIVIL WAR and another WORLD WAR.
I pray everyday that I don’t have to go against my neighbor.
It will not be pretty.
Obviously, Franklin enjoys the political propaganda he is being fed … as do many of the haters who are responding. The rules are clear, tap dancing with a shyster lawyer to try and screw the system does not benefit anyone. But the lawyer and political hacks.
Was it a DEM or REPUB, that put us in the last war
CIVIL WAR-HMMM I WON BUT WAS CHEATED
WORLD WAR-I WON BECAUSE I SAID SO, SO THAT MEANS THEY CHEATED SINCE I DIDNT WIN
RESULT-MAKE MILLIONS