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A VA rule change is going to have some undesirable repercussions on veterans across the nation.
Previously, the 85/15 Rule said that the VA could not pay for a student’s education if they are in a program where more than 85% of the students have their tuition supported by either the college itself or the VA.
The change has redefined what is considered a “supported student.” Previously it was “any student receiving VA benefits.” However, it is now considered “any student who gets a scholarship grant from their school, who is granted a waiver or tuition and fee forgiveness, or any student using a payment plan”.
As you can see, the rule change will make it so a large number of non-veteran students fall under the 85/15 Rule.
This means that veterans who want to use their GI Bill could have a more difficult time enrolling at schools they want to attend.
Many think that the VA’s intention for changing the rule was an attempt to decrease predatory schools from trying to get veterans to enroll so they can get more money coming into the school from students using the Post 9/11 GI Bill.
While the VA’s motive of trying to prohibit schools from preying on veterans is worthwhile, many think this is not the way to go about it.
Several members of Congress agree, and sent a letter to VA Secretary Denis McDonough requesting the following.
– To provide a list of schools and/or programs that have been suspended under the new guidance.
– Why the VA changed its guidance on the 85/15 Rule when the statutory language in section 3680 of title 38, United States Code, did not change?
– What training and communication has been provided to schools on how to implement this new guidance?
– If students are activated by the Guard or Reserve during their academic term, will they be unable to return to their educational program if it drops below the 85/15 ratio during their activation?
– What resources is VA providing to school certifying officials to ask questions and gain clarification about the new guidance?
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For anyone looking for more information about filing your claims, or presumptive issues from the Pact Act passing, please go see your local Veteran Services Commission (VSC). In the Great State of Ohio, there is a VSC in all 88 counties.
Will this change effect the veteran family member.
Does anyone know how this will affect speciality schools. I am looking to go back to school to get my certificate in computer forensics.
I came here looking for a commentary on what is happening due to changes in education. Silly me. This is a dropzone for angry letters that have nothing to do with what was written, anger, racism, and more political infighting. First off, if you are having trouble within a system, learn how the system works, then make sure your communication is sent to the proper area to get a positive result. If your problem is racism I’ll pray for you. And if your problem is government, it has been, will be, and won’t change, as long as you are not trying to work within its system of working. Remember you are greater and stronger than any of these problems. Act like it.
Agreed!
Amen, Work out those problems with Grace and Tact using your own mind with a Cool head and your heart beating in a timely manner!
Gods Blessings to all of my fellow Veterans who served our Nation!
We deserve to be to be taken care of know doubt.
But not with Violence or Attitude and divorce!
When times get frustrating stop relax take a deep breath exhale relax calm down.
Things will settle down quickly.
Best Regards
Brothers and Sisters
Live a Good Life
My poor husband of 40+ years dead at age 67 cause the rotten government did not do for him what they should of or for me either? He had agent orange bad then Mayport Naval station did nothing to help him or I when he was electrocuted in October 85 and pronounced dead and brought back with help of good doctors and myself and prayers? Did not pay him for 6 months and me having cancer of colon never got to recourperate properly ? Had to work 3 jobs cause my rotten parents sent card with $5.0o and state did nothing ? And gave him workman comp but cancelled health coverage for me and two kids? Lawyers in Florida good for nothing . Then after ten years dropped him from workman’s comp and he was forced to go back to work for another reject part of government USPS which sucks . Haveing to work all holidays and work nights ruind our family life . Then finally with busting his butt got into management, but very hard cause if you don’t kiss right asses you never get a promotion, and my husband Charlie Ketchum is no ass kisser and worst is working at Seminole PD&C in Orlando,Fl . Most of people and especially management toothface liers and caused him lots heartache and grief ? When cause him to have massive stroke and bleeding in brain . Cause he put in for promotion and rejects some ones called Willard and Wood, Don’t remember their first names but both should been fired ? Instead Willard in Jax,Fl and heard Wood had to take early retirement. But in mean time husband never got workman comp and post office screwed us out of lot money and their again lawyers screwed us over and one lawyer who lied and good for nothing is Wayne Johnson in winter park,Fl Toothface lying black idiot . And doctors at Heart care center of Titusville should took better care of him and put in pace maker and stronger meds. The owner of practice is Indian idiot Dr Rao and nurse practitioner assigned my meds to him and his to me? Good thing I have med experience or could killed us both and idiot who was taking care of that what you call it some Russian idiot Called Dr O can’t even pronounce his name got let go and now in Miami , so all in all doctors and government here in Florida good for nothing and va too he was suppose to be 100 percent didsabled with tinnitus and vertigo and agent orange and open heart surgery and valve put in and two stents and did nothing else, try find new doctor they all rot in Florida? For I need major surgery and been to 10 doctors and none will do nothing for me ? Try find malpractice Lawyer joke in Florida? So just pray they all get their just rewards soon ? And here I suffer all alone cause two doctors and hospital killed our son buy putting in wrong and defective valve at central Fl regional hospital Dr Thompson and De ogamasu from Africa , to many foreign idiots lately here in Florida? All you are is account number and dollar sign ? Come to Florida to die with these rotten doctors and coldhearted people . Moving home soon to hopefully save my life. But lost with our son and husband both to young to die?
I was with you until you went racial about it and now you lost my support. I too am a black veteran. Maybe if you didn’t have so much hate and bigotry in your heart, all this bad wouldn’t have happened to you. You say you praying but then call somebody a black idiot. Which God do you serve? God says he is no respecter of people but of course you had to go the race route. You need to repent!
She is still very upset. You were with her until she used the race word you didn’t like. I get it. So that denounces everything else that she said, that you seem to believe? That’s too narrow a vision my friend. Everyone that she and her husband have previously dealt with I’m sure weren’t Black or Indian. We both know its the system too, largely. I don’t know this woman but I understand her pain and frustration, as you do. Perhaps you can find forgiveness as well towards her. She is not your enemy. The God who loves us all understands our imperfections as people. Hopefully she reads this too and will address your concern :-)
But did she though, really? I’m still unclear what a tooth faced (I think she meant to say Two-Faced) is?!?
And yeah, I understand she also used the word Black, but refers to everyone as an idiot, not just the Doctor of color, Understandably so, when you loose a loved one, especially your child, emotions take over and you sometimes say the pain you feel in your heart. But that doesn’t mean just because someone said Black Idiot that it was racially motivated. Maybe the guy was just an idiot.
I would advise to just not use color at all in a conversation. As a matter of fact, just stop talking about color all together, and just be the best “people” we can be.
Sorry for your loss of son and husband. I can not imagine your pain. I pray you find peace in praying to a wonderful God who loves you. and who can guide you in the right direction even now. Much respect.
Carol, I am a 67-yo white veteran with 16-years reserve USNR-MC but…
DFAS lost almost 5-years of my service record (including active duty) because they placed it under a different SSN, I was activated for the 1991 gulf war under the wrong SSN and contracted the Gulf War Syndrome from the inoculations as a 36-yo being deployed to the Saudi Arabia. I can’t get a dime for the hearing damage and disability because Veteran affairs says I don’t exist.
However, I was placed on permanent disability as a GS13 DOD medical employee and feel trapped because the VA will recalculate any disability and retirement which will lower the monthly allotment because I was an E6 as a reservist.
I am sorry you believe this is due to race, which I cannot say. What I know is that many veterans have flaws in their “service jacket” which often require an attorney to correct and even then, it is a maybe.
Hello, the VA has a generic contractors (LHI and Optum Serve), who are under their umbrella to deny claims. They are NOT here to help in helping to get disability or compensation ! My civilian doctors all mention with my issues that were from 20 years of serving in the Air Force. I even had a doctor from BA Dallas telling me I could not get a handicap placard because I was Air Force and not Army. I went through my civilian doctor of my knee issues and got a placard. Seems veterans have better luck from your private doctors versus VA or their subcontractors.
I am still fighting my issues due to when I had serve we did not go to Sickcall because we would get in trouble, letter of reprimand, or letter of consulting for damaging government property. If you are not dying…..you are not going! So, it is hard to deal with claims approvals or justification. So, I relate to ALL who are presently serving, go to the medic and insure it is documented and clearly written for you VA claims when you get out.
They should close ALL VAs and give the care to civilian medical centers. We are not a mash example veterans!
Hello, the VA has a generic contractors (LHI and Optum Serve), who are under their umbrella to deny claims. They are NOT here to help in helping to get disability or compensation ! My civilian doctors all mention with my issues that were from 20 years of serving in the Air Force. I even had a doctor from VA Dallas telling me I could not get a handicap placard because I was Air Force and not Army. I went through my civilian doctor of my knee issues and got a placard. Also, everything I said was the same in his report, because I recorded it on my phone. He must had had his own recorder. Seems veterans have better luck from your private doctors versus VA or their subcontractors.
I am still fighting my issues due to when I had serve we did not go to Sickcall because we would get in trouble, letter of reprimand, or letter of consulting for damaging government property. If you are not dying…..you are not going! From injuries of arthritis due to heavy engine equipment, loss of hearing (VA issued me hearing aids), PTSD, Sleep Apnea (VA issued CPAP), head injury (cause neck vertebrae bone shif through my years) and their reply, “you had clean stitches! So, it is hard to deal with claims approvals or justification. So, I relate to ALL who are presently serving, go to the medic and insure it is documented and clearly written for your VA claims when you get out.
They should close ALL VAs and give the care to civilian medical centers. Wr are being considered as a number for these Log Rider Easy Money VA doctors. We are not a mash example veterans!
This is hilarious!
Your racism was evident. I was with you until then. Please get an education and realize that race does not make a person bad, it is small-minded people like you who have an undue influence with no facts! I am sympathetic but your approach is doomed to failure!
Gov’t Priority: Funding to support illegal aliens.
Space available: Do more with less to fund and support the needs of those who served.
I lost 50% of my hearing for wearing the 3M ear pluges although I am get a 100% from another Illness I inquired . Why I was in the Army but when was later I founded out that I lost 50%of my hearing I contact the VA about it. They told me that I was already getting 100%.. who do I contact to correct this on paid on my disability paid . The VA was the one that told me to go an be tested to see how much of hearing had ;lost and that”s when they said I was already was getting 100% they had the tested results at the VA why couldn”t just raise of my disability.I waas them to raise 100% because that the you max you can get
Just don’t bother the VA they will reduce your 100% and say well here here’s your 10% for hearing loss
I have to admit that the VA is clueless and very self-serving. They assume that if you have multiple sclerosis it is 24 hours, 7 days per week. Are they totally ignorant? There is multiple types of MS, I have RRMS therefore there can be days of close to 100% ability however there are days I have no ability.
If you are 100%, that’s ALL you will ever receive! I have 125%, all injuries, and illnesses together, but I am only paid 100%. Be Thankful that we are BLESSED to be able to receive anything.
Please read my other texts concerning all the aspects associated with disability and the VA. I was a medical corp residency trained army physician who was an expert in disability impairment. I am very ill now so I cannot answer individual questions. Just look up my previous information and please understand that I know my stuff on this.
Never knew about rule 85/15
I didn’t know this either Steve
Never had any problems with the VA in Salisbury, NC
I have had COPD and sleep apnea for decades, non smoker and no family history of COPD. I was a Vietnam medic and my job was burning the s__t everyday mixed with diesel as well as burning medical waste. Lots of exposure to toxic fumes but VA refuses coverage. I really feel this is service related, plus heavy dust exposure when on vehicles in caravans where we could peel layers of dirt off of our faces.
I have all of the occurrences of the GWS… only I never went to war… How is it one person can have the same things someone who went to war has… the common factor was not war!
I did a research on Gulf War Illnesses
My father used them if needed. Most things was handled in MATTHEW’S, NCYou
Hello fellow Veteran,
Do you have anyone representing you? Try the DAV it was an uphill battle for me
I first got 30% and went back to the hospital stAID 30 DAYS got out waited a week and went back to the hospital, It’s a full-time job getting your service connection. BUT NEVER GIVE UP. When I got my 100% it was worth the fight..
It took 30 years for me to get my disability raised from 30% to 100%.
took me over 50 yr from 10% to 100%
Hi, I applied to have my 10% raised to 100% from Rheumatoid Arthritis that I developed while i was in the Navy back in 1998. It started in my right hand and now 25 years later its through out my whole body. I applied 5 years ago and still waiting to hear back. I applied at the VA Office at my counties court house. I dont know if I did the right thing or should I have applied through my Doctor at the VA Hospital and Clinics in Iowa City?
Backpay???
I worked with DAV and am now 100% disabled and medically retired AGR HR NCOIC with 29 years. and am now an American Legion Post Service Officer assisting other veterans.
Hello Steve, what are you located? I can use your help applying my military disability.
I am located in maryland.
Thanks
I’m a Grunt Marine who served in Vietnam in 68-69. I was wounded and as a result, lost my right leg above the knee. For a half century I’ve been doing battle with VA to be fairly compensated. I’m finally satisfied that fairness is here at last. I salute you and any other Vet who helps others to traverse the obstacle course that is the VA. It’s a disgrace and only getting worse. Along the way I’ve been represented by about a dozen different agencies and with varying degrees of success. One thing I’ve noticed on here is that many claim to have the answers and Love to criticize other vets on here. We should be spending our energy and our knowledge working together to make meaningful changes for all. We can blame each other or we can blame the real culprits, the f***in’ VA and those who fund it. The current Orgs that are charged with that task have caved it seems and have become powerless. It shows in our monthly mags that focus on pomp and circumstance, waving the flag, heartwarming stories and patting ourselves on the back. I’m sick of all of the funerals, the congratulatory bulls**t and the focus on anything except how we are being screwed. We used to have a voice in Washington and we used to have face to face meetings with our Reps to light fires under the right asses. We now have no voice to fight for real COLAS and real reforms because nobody sees our Reps and Senators on the hotseat getting grilled under a national spotlight. This is how we might just have a chance to make the changes we need so badly. Write to the Reps who chair and sit on committees that have a say in all of this. Keep writing and never let up. Write to News orgs, Vets groups, etc etc. And don’t be nice about demanding those changes. They have enough people to kiss their asses and need a different approach. The Squeaky wheel and all of that. Be
the biggest pains in their butts that you can be. If nothing else, it’s very cathartic.
The VFW has specially trained Service Officers that will assist veterans with any claim(s) for FREE.
YES – FREE.
Contact your local VFW Post !!
The DAV will also help you. FREE. They got me 100 percent disability. Love the Disabled American Veterans.
The last time I went to the VA in Philadelphia all the doctor did was scream at me when I wasn’t even through the door yet telling me if I ever smoke a cigarette, a cigar a pipe anything don’t even bother coming in to see her. Well, I don’t smoke anymore And I would not bring my dog to the VA. That’s how veterans are treated here.
There are many lung issues they should be looking it. COPD, DAMAGE FROM EXPOSEER TO ALL THE USE OF CHEMICALS USE. BLACK LUNG DISORDER. IF IT INVOLVES PROBLES WITH SLEEING APENA. MAY OTHER THINGS. SHOULD BE SEEING A PULMONARY MD.. Good luck.. Just be persistent.
It would be nice if we could work together as veterans, but that will never happen. We never worked together when we were in because some of us didn’t like the color of someone else skin. This will always keep America divided. I think we need veterans to work in all the places that supposed to help us. We need real veterans in all areas of our government because they have been there, they know what we have been through, and they should understand what we really need. Start with your local government, then state, congress and the presidency.
I served for 10 years in the Army in various position tactical and strategic. I don’t know what units you were in but I never even saw racism. And my platoon sergeant and my team leader were not the same hue as me. We were all green and if you f’ed with one of you f’ed with all of us. I also find that most of the people who find racism are usually looking for it and I think that says more about them than it does about veteran’s.
10/4 copy that
If you’re not Black, you can’t know about the depth and breath of racism!
10/4 same herr
Never saw any racism during my years of service, 1967-1969.
Because We were soldiers & did our jobs as a TEAM! Go Army & all the military.
There was plenty in the 70’s
I agree
Where you in the same ARMY as me I saw plenty of racism, insubordination
I got called the Grand Wizard of the Klu Klux Klan. by a subordinate. I was not racist when I busted the down 2 stripes I saw green
I agree
Never saw any during my time in the service 1965 to 1969 on the USS Ogden LPD5
Absolutly correct!
Well if you served from 1979-1985 there was definitely racism. Especially in Germany.
It’s not always the color of the skin that causes prejudice, it can be their attitude, mannerisms, motivations, that cause the divisions.
Last week I visited 13 veterans homes to assist with claims, I do this as a service at no cost, sometimes driving up to 100 miles to offer my service.
I have helped veterans from every service except for the Coast Guard, every race and religious background except for a Hindu, not that I would object to either one, just haven’t had one ask
I started doing this at first just to occupy my time after winning my own 100% P&T which took me 6 years, because of a lot of really bad advice.
In my 25 years I have
43. 100% P&T
13. 100% U/E
All the rest are still in the system, and currently 85% of them are between 50-70% and still being worked.
Of all the people I have helped, I have only walked away from 2 vets, 1 white was so drunk when I arrived at 0900 he fell down walking from his front door to the kitchen table, could not even read his own paperwork, and his words were so slurred I just couldn’t understand him, I gave him 2 more chances, with more or less the same result
The second one, a young black guy an E-6 in 9 years, said he had to get out be cause of racism, while I was there trying to help him developed a claim, I was told his CO, XO, CMC, Div Off, shop supervisor, and co-workers were all racist.
So as I’m flipping through the copy of his service, he had 2 NAM’S had been sailor of the year, and was the shop supervisor, until he was convicted of to DUI’S off base, surveillance tape showing him shop lifting at the base exchange, and sexual relations with a coworker, that was assigned under him.
I spent close to an hour explaining VA disability was based on medical evidence and injuries, and that we needed to focus on his medical issues and evidence, that the VA didn’t award medical disability, for what amounted to legal matters, charges of racism should be addressed thru the legal system. And we would concentrate on the medical disability.
Many people throw that racism card when a long look in the mirror is what the really need.
Well to wrap it up, he said I was just another white racist trying to keep my foot on his throat to keep him down.
You should have seen the look on his face when I opened my wallet and showed him a photo of my black wife (far darker than him) and 4 mixed race children.
Some time humans are lazy and will take the path of least resistance, and throw that race card.
The problem with that is enough people throw that card, and it hurts the image of those that look the same. Which in itself is wrong but is human nature, so try to judge each person on their individual merits, not on the actions of people,of the same religion or ethic background.
It when someone starts calling everyone around them racists, that they may find the racist in the mirror looking back at them
Hey Doug I would like to talk to you about my VA benefits
Brenda,
I will have to disagree, the men I was stationed with were combat Marines, color never was an issue in my Battalion 2/9 Weapons. I was the senior corpsman (Doc) and I had many black friends. We were very tight, as when we would be on force marches I watched white and black guys help each other pick up black and white, hispanic guys, their equipment and backpacks because they were Marines.
It has to start in the home period!!! In the late 60’s I was subjected to Rioting in the schools when bussing started. I had a few Black friends who would warn me not to come to school on specific day as a riot was planned and it occurred as warned. My family was very prejudice and I had 5 stepfathers; but I stayed out of trouble the best I could being a low middle-class neighborhood. I continued with my education using the GI Bill, became a licensed Nursing Home Administrator with an impeccable career. I stepped down cutting my salary by 50% to work for the State of Florida as health facilities evaluator (Surveyor of Nursing Homes for nearly 8 years), I trained a young black man to be a surveyor before returning back to the Nursing Homes where I opened a 223-bed sub-acute skilled nursing home and maintained 5-star rating. At the end of my tenure, I sought out that black gentleman and trained him to be a nursing home administrator, which he gained his license and thanked me profusely. People have to want to change, Semper Fi, USN- Kim Simmons HM3.
I haven’t met any veterans who were racists. Seen alot of it in the 80’s and 90’s, I never tolerated it and when I seen it I squashed it. I also didn’t tolerate bias opinions were women were being introduced on Navy ships. I get called a racists just because I supported Trump and Iam white. I dont have a problem with colored people whether they are Black, Asia, Latino, whatever same as what gender they claim to be. I enjoyed my service with my shipmates and I would do it again if I could.
the VA doctors did a great job on my AAA stents had two put in at Seattle Wa VA hosp
was that in a VA hospital or out sourced?
VA hosp.
I have Ischimic Heart disease now i have thriple by pass at 38 years old now got two stents for my heart in 2020 i got two sentients for my aorta AAA i had a ischæmic stroke and that is not coved ishimca is Ishima from my 2 years in Nam agent orange that should be added too for us
it has been
no not yet for ischæmic stroke
I just changed from a Medicare advantage plan to Medicare with a secondary insurance company. I’m 100% when I went to the VA with the advantage plan I never had to pay anything. Now I get less from SS plus I pay over $200.00 each month for secondary insurance . Why does my other insurance company have to pay anything. ????? Why doesn’t Medicare pay instead ??? Crazy Does anyone know. Thanks
As a 100% retired military disabled vet, I use the VA for 98% of my care and sometimes including community Care. We don’t pay the VA under status but I’m still trying to figure out how Medicare Humana honor plan is going to work.
Why did you change? Medicare pays the Advantage insurers to take care of your medical needs; when you have the secondary insurance company, it’s in addition to what Medicare pays. I’ve been on Advantage for 10 years and won’t change – particularly with the medical bills I’ve had lately.
being 100 percent, you don’t need anything but part A medicare. VA still my primary. I do not pay a dime.
As with me. They will not charge back to Medicare anyway. I told Social Security that since I was 100%, I didn’t want nor needed the Medicare insurance.
Because Medicare is considered your primary insurance. The other insurance is just like a pay if asked company.
You really shouldn’t do that! If you have access to medicare I highly recommend it! There is so much that can come up when it comes to outside medical that VA is not able to treat in house. That’s when Medicare can be used for as secondary payer. I am 💯 and have had multiple outside hospital stays/ treatments/surgeries, when I had to see outside doctors when the VA was not able to treat me. Medicare helps with the tab. Yes VA is supposed to cover most of the costs. But they don’t always. The rest of the bill I was able to send to Medicare. Mind you thats only covered IF the VA approved the treatment beforehand, which they are not always inclined to do in a hurry or at all for that fact! Then the outside treatment bill is all yours to figure out which can get really expensive with no other insurance to pay for it.
So true! I have Medicaire for my disabilities where the VA just keeps denying any fault.. I even have a thick medical folder from when in service. Medicaire is best!!!
I opted out of Medicare all together, as the VA does not use Medicare as a secondary . So why pay for something that is never used.
F***ing Government finds a way to screw the Soldier after using them for cannon fodder for a few years ?
#1 I was in the Corps for 4 years, 1966-1970 – two tours in Vietnam 67-69.
#2 I am 90% disabled, with 10% for unemployability. Equals 100%.
#3 Every facet of my disability directly relates to my time in the Corps.
That being said, there is a of of misunderstanding going on here. ANY condition, illness, disease or injury, directly related to your time in service is compensable. The emphasis should be on “directly related to your time in service”. Each condition is evaluated and assigned a percentage of disability. For instance I have loss of hearing related to gunfire, etc. The assigned percentage is 10%. When all of your disabilities are added up (in a formula that I don’t understand), you MAY be given compensation, and you can be treated for those conditions at VA facilities. When you are rated at 100%, they will treat you for any condition you have.Conditions brought on by civilian life (on the job injury, snake bite,hunting accident and so forth, are not service related. Just because you are in for to-three years, doesn’t mean they will take care of your teeth when you are 45. Get it?
If you think you have a service related condition that needs treatment, go find a VETERAN’S SERVICE OFFICER! just Google VSAO Near me.
Sorry, my typing sucks! That should be VSO near me. VSO means Veteran’s Service Officer. Where I live, the county even provides the service. And, for the most part, these people know their s***! It’s the best place to start.
USN from 1954/1963 dental prosthetic text. Uss orkinsay cva 34/naval training ctr San Diego, .three times, schooling NAS Miramar/USMC Camp Pendleton, Ca.. Thank you, all VA workers in Okla for your efforts in keeping me well. If it wasn’t for the VA I would be 6 feet under. Quit your bitching, appreciate what you have! Bill Johnson
I was just up at the VA to have blood taken and they tried to give me an excuse on why it was taking so long. You know what. I DON’T want to hear excuses You have a large budget and the place I went was a brand new building billed specifically for veterans and the VA. So what happened to those that worked at the old place when you closed. Why am I getting lip? You had to take an oath to even get hired by the VA. Why are we contracting and using a huge corporation to do our lab work. Do it in house cheaper and faster more efficient. I totally agree with everyone else. The VA doesn’t listen to us. It is time for Congress to know were we stand. Illegals deported. If you haven’t applied for asylum at embassy prior to coming here. You are automatically deported with no chance of entry. My wife is here legally and I have talked to others who are here legally., They don’t want them to have an automatic way here. Only the democrats want this for a way to have more votes. Lets get all the veterans organized as well.
Who told you, that you had to take an oath to get hired by the VA?. I only ask you because I worked for them for 35 years. I too get my care at the VA, and I had to listen to a bunch of Vets get loud and complain because they had to wait 20 minutes to get blood drawn. Go outside and get blood drawn and people were waiting for an hour. In my 35 years serving VETS, I saw quite a lot of VETS acting like children throwing temper tantrums when they weren’t seen as fast as they thought they should have been seen. I also watched other VETS who were waiting patiently, shake their heads at some of there temper tantrums VETS.
The V.A. was never designed to service all the vets. Many people chose the V.A. as their primary care provider when Obama made it mandatory to join Obamacare. When vets saw the free care they started to use the V.A.
Also Biden has sent V.A. providers to the border to process illegal migrants, sex offenders, drug dealers and terrorist. Americans are second. The Communist Democrats don’t care about the vets
REALLY! as vet to a vet you need some help look at who has pass the bill for the vet’s it was not the GOP! Do some research before you make a “ass of you and me”
Amen, Max
Bobby better to appear stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.. Communist Democrats, drug dealers and illegal immigrants? That is so ignorant I hardly know what to say to you. No one in any of those groups gets special treatment or pay.. Stop watching Fox News and educate yourself. Stop being a racist and ignorant piece of white trash. Where do you get this bullshit you spout. Grow up and educate yourself.
Patrick, that was a good one, Amen
Stop that stupid nonsense. You’re crazier then Duck. (“DT”)
Bobby when did you join or retire from the military. Going through VA has always been slow it has gotten slower because base closures and veterans going to the nearest facility they can. There are lot more veterans now than there was in the 80’s, so things will be slow. We have had more veterans coming from the conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan than Vietnam.
Bobby you are so full of shit just shut up you have no idea what you are talking about DONT complain when the republicans take away social security Medicaid and your VA BENEFITS BECAUSE THATS EXACTLY WHAT THEY PLAN ON DOING
It took 5 minutes on the outside no matter where we go to have blood drawn in civilian world. Course its a bi city.
100% in agreement!
They wonder why enlistment is down? When they take away the benefits that service gives you how can they be surprised that enlistment I’d down? We can allow millions of illegals to invade our border, send billions to Ukraine, leave massive amounts of military hardware most of it better than what our troops are using in Afghanistan and all the other waste the government does but screw veterans. They spend money giving housing to drug addicts but leave veterans out on the street homeless. Why would someone who sees all of this going on decide to enlist these days.? Sorry to seem like such a Debbie downer but It’s hard to listen to all of our fellow veterans who are fighting to get a fair shake. In this country the louder the voices the more they listen. We really need to organize into one group instead of the many different groups out there so they have to hear us.
You are 100% right
Absolutely
Don’t just talk about it . . . DO IT!
JOE IS AN IDIOT!! HE IS A NON-VET WHO AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF IS SCREWING EVERYTHING UP!! BY THE TIME WE GET RID OF THE KILLER THE MILITARY WILL BE DESTROYED!!
So you prefer that draft dodger and racist Trump? I support law and order Trump said. So where was his support on Jan 6th? North Korea is our friend along with Putin? After he thought bullying rocket man would make him our friend and what about the close door session with Putin? As for some of you that have no choice and have to use the VA. I sympathized with you. Those who are complaining about Obama Care. The entire time Trump was in office and his party in control of both the House and Senate? I ask you: “What did they do about health care?” I served from May 1982 to July 2003. Then another ten years with the Federal Government. Do I utilize the VA? No; it doesn’t take care of dependents the primary reason and admit hard to get or obtain an appointment because “I realize that I’m not the only one who exists going to maybe a brand new building, that also may have individuals who either are short staff or new working there or have the best pieces of equipment.” The keyword: If you don’t like it: VA Contact Representative, VA Center Manager, VA IG Office, State Senators, and etc.
Trump was not a draft dodger. He was rated unfit for service because of medical reasons. If you actually checked the number of people who are unfit for service in America you would want to leave the country. We are not a healthy nation when it comes to our younger generation. This is due to all the drugs our young people use. Also, when I worked on the Mexican border I was assigned to train five non-white “American:” applicants because they could not read or write. They tried to join the Border Patrol but could not speak, read or write English. These are the people who want to control our country. Very sad…
I bet you also supported him having classified documents. I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion. But in your last line, you’re saying anybody doesn’t have the right to apply for a job? Bone spurs really, If you still believe that nonsense then give back your stimulus checks.
My comment is going to Alphonso Manning
What’s your excuse for the draft dodgers we had back during the Vietnam war. The yellow bellies how ran to Canada instead of doing the right thing and fighting when called for.
Frederick, Trump avoided the military because he was rich and he wanted to go to college, also he had flat feet. A lot of people have served with flat feet. You are probably too young to know about Vietnam, all rich kids got out of going. Some rich kids wanted to go so they went. Flat feet want kill you.
OH AND TRUMP AND HIS 5 deferments that damn draft dodging blow hard
Both the GOP and DEM carry an agenda, they just want us to think it’s different, Just think that the last place I worked had a facility next store that housed 60 female refugees that were between 4 years old and 16 years old. Each child receives $750 per day from the current administration. Our own citizens receive $265 Medicaid.
What the hell, look on the street how many homeless veterans there are. Too proud to accept any kind of help but succumb to begging for their mear existence. I look in their eyes and wonder what have you seen, what battles have you survived to find yourself here now in this place? I try to give when I can. It really bothers me to see how our country provides for others with our tax dollars and our nursing homes, VA’s are so so understaffed because of low pay. So bad that CMS lowered the staffing requirement from 1-10 ratio to 1-20 on all shifts.
I just hung up my license after 38 years, because of such inadequate staffing requirements. Kim Simmons, HM3
That is why I watch HGTV on the televisions in the waiting areas. The VA has outside providers come in the facility to do procedures on and to vets. I know military veterans who are retired and working/worked for the VA and they say the patient load is ridiculous! She had 1200. She left, because it was too many people to handle! Sloa is better than not at all.
Janet Young you are so right!
Use my Post 9 /11 for BA and had two classes to finish for MBA and University of Phoenix wanted $15,000 for last two classes up front. Wow! What a let down
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It’s laborious to search out knowledgeable folks on this matter, however you sound like you know what you’re talking about! Thanks
Can my wife use the GI Bill?
Yes. That’s what I was told when I got out in 1981. Not just us, but spouses as well. If you’re disabled, I know that in the mid 1990s, that u and your family could use the Montgomery Bill. That’s WAY better than the GI BILL! It pays not just for your tuition, but also your supplies for school! You may want to check and see if that BILL still exists. I used it myself. That’s how I know! They’ll support you going to college to get as many degrees as you want! At least, during that time. Please check it out! Good Luck!!
I served in the Marine Corps for three years 77 to 80 and I can even get a f***ing tooth pulled serve in my country so tell me what’s up
If it’s service connected or you’re 100% you get dental care. BUT I agree with you, they could see more VETS for dental who don’t qualify.
I SERVED 24 YEARS IN THE US NAVY WORKING IN THE DENTAL FIELD. 3 MONTHS AFTER RETIRING I WENT TO THE DENTAL CLINIC IN PENSACOLA AND THEY WOULDN’T EVEN SEE ME! SAD THING IS I RAN THERE CLINIC IN MERIDIAN, MISSISSIPPI FOR 3 YEARS!!
I was in the U.S.ARMY FROM 1975 TO 1981 I WAS IN THE FIELD ARTILLERY AND SUFFERED A HUGE HEARING LOSS A NEED TO FIND OUT WHO I NEED TO CONTACT ABOUT GETTING COMPENSATION FOR MY HEARING LOSS !!!! ANY INFORMATION YOU COULD PROVIDE TO ME WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED !!!!!!!!
Contact your local Veteran Service Officer and they will help you file the claim. (you can google Veteran Service Officers and it will give you a list of them so you can find the one closet to you)
Also, The American Legion has a VA officer. It’s free and they are sent to school filling out all the paperwork. Good luck….
Get an independent analysis done by a medical doctor or audiologist who will also write a letter stating that your hearing loss resulted from exposure to artillery and your working with artillery in the military. Include that in your application.
Ya gotta watch out for what the VA wants to do to you. Served thirty years, mostly full time Command Pilot in the Air National Guard, 11,000+ hours flight time. Viet Nam (Agent Orange prostate cancer, PTSD), Cold War Europe, Desert Shield Saudi Arabia, etc. 100% disability – then the VA said they wanted to “chat” with me about my cancer, which had returned after radical prostatectomy. After many years using Depends for incontinence. I got a bladder sling to keep from peeing my pants. When they “chatted” with me about it, they decided I didn’t pee enough in the night and withdrew $2200 a month from my benefits, even though I still have prostate cancer. Sneaky b@$+@?ds. If you’re in a similar situation where they want to have a “chat” with you, A: you don’t have to go, B: go to the DAV and get a representative to defend your case. I am fighting them right now.
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I would like to get my BA Certificate. I got it when I applied for but it is expired. If you can help I would appreciate it very much. I served 22 years in the Reserved and Nation Guard. My name is Leroy D. Johnson, SSN: 587985834, DOB: 11/13/1953, my address is 40 Ashford Street, Apartment 3, Allston, Massachusetts 02134, Phone 857/237/9089.
If your information is correct, why in the world would you post that here on a public forum. If you can retract/edit your post, do it immediately! You are a prime candidate for identification theft.
Exactly!
You need to get your personal information off of this thread, like yesterday!
USMC fighter pilot (F-8s & F-4s) 1963 thru 1968. No degree. G.I. Bill covered my 3-major BA, MBA, MPA, and PhD. Thank you!!
Unfortunately I fell in the period between the GI Bill and VEAP so did not get any college assistance and had to cover the costs myself. 15 years later and I am still paying on student loans.
The government has not held up it promises for the Cold War period veterans.
Promised on retirement- Health Care for life at no cost,
Actual- Monthly fee and copays of 20%-50% on covered items
Promised on retirement-Dental Care for life
Actual- Dental care only available through specific private providers, Monthly fee and copays of 20%-50% on covered items.
I agree. I came in 1973 during Vietnam and have all my benefits taken away by co pays and not qualifying as a 21 year veteran.
This government does not care about us the more they can take away from us the more they can give to
illegals and pay for their ridiculous woke programs
AMEN BROTHER! You nailed it!!
Veterans…A Necessary Liability…????
Yes, all of that and what they can put into their pockets.
I hope this thread will change the VA’s current plan. Our military deserves an excellent program to help elevate their lives after serving their country. God Bless America!
Would like to see more benefits extended to widows.
I agree. Especially if the Veteran dues before the 10 year period of being Permanent and Totally Disabled by the VA.
So would I. I am 100% disabled from service connected Agent Orange diseases, (lung cancer, brain cancer, Ischimic Heart disease, two types of Malaria, PTSD. I’ve been 100% since 1995. When I die my wife will only get half my VA money. Congress could care less, especially the GOP who vote against veteran bills over an over. Keep calling your congressman and senator. Hope the D.A.V would put more pressure on them.
Do you belong to the American Leigon they may very well be able to help you out !!! There over 2 million people strong !!!!
Yes me to
I used my Gibill to get my bachelors degree
I used my GI Bill for my Bachelors degree in computer science and all of my MBA requirements except the last course.
University of Phoenix HAHA, thats not a real “university”
Agreed.
Obviously you failed the Professionalism course. 🤣
For sure. University is a joke and scam
I got a friend who got a BA in education from the University of Phoenix and has been a school teacher for the last ten years. It was legit then.
Marine Corps is the best. Loyalty and Discipline
Served three years. Korean Vet. Retired as a SGT EG
I have always had great respect for the Marine Corps. Thank you for your service, Robert.
Hooooooooawwwwwwwww.
Proper spelling is Hooah!
SHUT UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh Yes Sir – I Thank the Almighty God everyday for Our Beloved Corps and for the Opportunity I had because of all you guys who greased the skids before me – It was God and the Corps that made me the man I am today – HONOR – COURAGE – COMMITMENT – This is Our ETHOS – Served from age 25 to 48 – 23 Action Packed – Fun Years – Around the World twice – four (4) Continents – One (1) War – traveled all over this Great Nation – OOOOHHHH RRRAAAHHHHHH!!!!! Semper Fidelis! And God Bless America! “IN GOD WE TRUST” USMC Ret 1987 MCRD San Diego CA – 2010 – Ist Marine Logistics Group – 1st Marine Expeditionary Force – Camp Pendleton CA
It doesn’t “impact”, it AFFECTS. Those words are NOT interchangeable.
I love a man who knows his grammar.
What it comes down to in simple terms it means a lot of guys that served is not going to be able to go to school they don’t realize that most of us are struggling as it is here we are trying to make ourselves better and we lose out. Why is it a rule change that the VA makes affects US veterans and we are always on the losing end
It may “affect” the Veteran, but if you do not have a fat wallet you will definitely feel the “Impact” in the area of your gluteus maximus.
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University of phoenix did this to me. They told me from the beginning that I could only take one class at a time and they pretty much charged me the same as if I was full time in another school taking 3 courses at a time. Bc of what they did I used more of my gi bill for less credits than it should have been.
I went to the University of Phoenix as well but I had a different experience. They told me that its on a time basis rather than a course basis (which implies the same thing). Said I could enroll in multiple classes or one class and I would be charged against the G.I. Bill for the flat time of the enrollment period. I specifically asked for one class at time time BECAUSE they considered it full time. I have my degree already prior to enlistment.